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Jan. 30th, 2013

An idealist? Really? [Making exasperated faces.]

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rebutle
Jan. 31st, 2013 05:26 am (UTC)
Who called you that?

[She's tempted to laugh, but doesn't want to seem like she's laughing at him.]

I'd say you're an analytical realist.
vindex_terrae
Jan. 31st, 2013 12:57 pm (UTC)
Jack. [That's a grumble, for sure.]

I relayed the conversation to the Doctor and he said I aim for realistic, but he can't decide if I'm pessimistic or breathtakingly optimistic. As in, he can't make his mind up which is the right description of the conclusion, not that I'm mercurial.
rebutle
Jan. 31st, 2013 01:42 pm (UTC)
Now, I'm really confused.
vindex_terrae
Jan. 31st, 2013 01:49 pm (UTC)
Are humans - people in general, if you prefer - good or bad in nature? Does that question even have meaning?
rebutle
Jan. 31st, 2013 02:16 pm (UTC)
Spider Robinson once wrote a story about creating an experiment--children raised completely by computers, to speak a language without biases when it comes to moral undertones and such, to see how they develop. The moral was that the question of "can the experiment itself could be conducted ethically?" was too messy to even begin with.

It's impossible to know what the base nature is, due to every child being influenced by the manner in which they're raised. However, everyone has the ability to strive to make the world an overall better place to inhabit.
vindex_terrae
Jan. 31st, 2013 02:55 pm (UTC)
I largely agree. Conversely, I find someone saying 'I could never do x; I'm a good person' to be laughable. That's the part that disturbs the Doctor. He prefers to think of people as tending towards good but sometimes getting it wrong.
rebutle
Jan. 31st, 2013 03:04 pm (UTC)
Good by what standards, exactly?

Never mind. I'm not sure there's an unbiased way to answer that question, either.
vindex_terrae
Jan. 31st, 2013 04:02 pm (UTC)
Exactly. He mostly means his own. I mostly mean how an individual would measure themselves and other people.
rebutle
Jan. 31st, 2013 04:08 pm (UTC)
And Jack thinks you're an idealist. Am I missing some context to that one?
vindex_terrae
Jan. 31st, 2013 04:25 pm (UTC)
I said something about the strength of the determination of people to hold onto civilized behavior is in certain contexts, like, say, the London Blitz amazes me. Far from perfect, but not futile, either.And he pointed out I've gone to a lot of trouble to prove to myself it's not futile. [He shrugs with a touch of sheepishness.]
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